BRITISH NAVAL AND MILITARY BADGES

#1 by chocks , Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:18 pm

I'll start this with some naval badges because that's all I have. I hope some of you can add some Army or Air Force badges.
I'll keep it close to home to start with and see how it goes.

Ships of the Royal Navy have had badges for over a thousand years but none became official until 1917 when the Admiralty first approved them. Designs and colours were presented for approval and an "Admiralty Pattern" was granted. Any colour changes then had to be authorised, and any design changes have to be re-presented and a new pattern needs to be issued. As shore establishments are considered as ships the rules also applied to them. Squadrons were added in the 1920's and individual units were added in the 1980's. There are still many unofficial badges doing the rounds for units without any badges issued and of those that do have official's many prefer to use the earlier unofficial badge.

I'll start with HMS Birmingham. Note the changes in colour,shape and design over the years. Especially the Hammer and the Crown, one even having a Naval Crown replacing the brick cranelations.
The first badge is the original Admiralty Pattern all the others are adeptation of that original.

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#2 by chocks , Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:14 am

HMS Forward - Birmingham Royal Naval Reserve - Bordsley Green.
These are both recorded as official but one of them must be wrong. I'll have to go down there to find out which is correct.

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#3 by Frothy , Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:11 am

I can't see the post horn and riding hat being right


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#4 by chocks , Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:30 am

I'm inclined to agree but I still think I'll go and check it out. I know there used to be a base outside of Brum that was called "Forward" so I'll have to try and find out where that was and see if there's any obvious connection with the badge.

 
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#5 by chocks , Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:39 am

Here's a good one. RAF Castl Bromwich.

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#6 by Frothy , Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:24 am

What does the motto mean?
I've Googled it. It won't translate.
URBI is CITY. ALAE is WING


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#7 by chocks , Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:49 am

Not entirely certain but from what I can figure out, it means something along the lines of.... "from or above the city our wings thrust"..... the last part of the latin is Clant which means to thrust, shove or push forward with force so it could have derived from the Brum motto "Forward" but that may only be a coincidence.
Hopefully someone will know what the motto actually means?

 
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#8 by chocks , Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:37 pm

Around the Birmingham Area.
1 Coventry%201919%20%28FA2%29.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte) HMS Coventry

5 Mercia%20%28crest%29.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte) HMS Mercia. RNR Base Coventry

2 HMS%20ATHERSTONE%20-%20Badge.JPG - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte) HMS Atherston

8 4062.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte) HMS Gamecock. Nuneaton The only Royal Naval Air Station in the Midlands. Later to become RAF Bramcote.

9 Lichfield.jpg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte) RAF Lichfield (Fradley)

 
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#9 by Frothy , Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:29 pm

I do like looking at these badges. HMS Gamecock is a strange one though.


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#10 by chocks , Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:55 pm

Quote: Frothy wrote in post #9
I do like looking at these badges. HMS Gamecock is a strange one though.


What's strange about the Gamecock badge?

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#11 by Frothy , Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:02 pm

I suppose the gamecock one would be OK if it didn't have the spurs on it.


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#12 by chocks , Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:16 pm

It's a Fighting Cock. If it didn't have the spurs it'd just be a cock
Doesn't exactly give an image of power and agression does it?................mind you after writing this I'm begining to have second thoughts

 
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#13 by Frothy , Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:16 am

Why call it a Gamecock? It sounds to me like a Gamebird, something you go out and shoot.


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#14 by chocks , Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:23 am

Wikipedia gives a good explanation.
I haven't figured out out to show the link yet


 
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#15 by Frothy , Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:32 am

Quote: chocks wrote in post #14
Wikipedia gives a good explanation.
I haven't figured out out to show the link yet


Yes, I think that explains it.

The link is right at the top of the page. Just highlight it then copy and paste
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamecock


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