RE: Jack Fowler Service Oct 1940 - June 1946

#61 by davidfowler , Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:42 am

Thanks for finding that Chocks. As I promised to put Dad's stuff on the Forum it's made me get more organised. Although I've got most of the records, so far they've always been in a bit of a jumble bout you've made me put things down in order - cheers!
Also, I'm transcribing (sounds a bit posh) a diary he wrote during his time on KGV.

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RE: Jack Fowler Service Oct 1940 - June 1946

#62 by chocks , Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:38 am

Look forward to seeing that David.

Hears the Badge for "Royal Arthur and Raleigh"

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RE: Jack Fowler Service Oct 1940 - June 1946

#63 by chocks , Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:55 am

And HMS Victory (AKA Victory Barracks)

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RE: Jack Fowler Service Oct 1940 - June 1946

#64 by chocks , Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:28 am

It's amazing what you can learn from these old photographs.
On your Royal Arthur photo I notice that many of the Lads have the ships name on their cap ribbons. This suprised me somewhat because I was led to believe along with probably most historians that from the end of 1939 only the latters "HMS" were allowed.
It is also interesting to note that due to the strictness at Royal Arthur, all the lads are wearing the knot in the cap ribbon over the left ear which is the correct way but when aboard the KGV many have the knot over the left eye. This was a common practice and although wrong the Navy allowed it to continue well into the 1960's when it was finally outlawed.
I also noticed that at Royal Arthur, all are wearing lanyards round their neck but again, on the KGV none are. This was because they removed the lanyard and wore it round their waist with a clasp knife attached to the end. This practice continued well into the late 70's and the only time a lanyard was worn was with No1 Dress for Parades and when ashore.
This all changed with the introduction of the new style uniform in 1979 (and the prevention of uniforms being worn ashore from 1974 until 1985 because of the IRA threat).
On a personnal level I see the lads are wearing the blue jersey under their tunics. I was the last intake ever to be issued with these jerseys and I can tell you now they were the itchiest garments I've ever had the missfortune to wear. Fortunately they were withdrawn in 1976 and we were all issued with a "Wooley Pulley" similar to those worn by the army and the RAF.


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RE: Jack Fowler Service Oct 1940 - June 1946

#65 by davidfowler , Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:03 pm

Very interesting Chocks, more to into my files - thanks.
Here's a pic of Dad, in what he told me were his No 1s. As there's only HMS and no ship name does that mean he had only recently joined? He looks very young!

 
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RE: Jack Fowler Service Oct 1940 - June 1946

#66 by chocks , Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:46 pm

Very smart there in his No1's. Stoker 3rd class, so pressumably still in his trade training but judging by the way he wears his uniform he must have been near the end of it.
He has certainly been in long enough to learn those little tricks to look smarter. Like wearing his cap on the tilt, wrapping his lanyard round his tapes at the front and rolling his collar inside his tunic to make it higher at the front. (Compare the picture with the Royal Arthur photo and you'll see the difference). Very smart indeed!


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RE: Jack Fowler Service Oct 1940 - June 1946

#67 by chocks , Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:01 pm

HMS Berwick Badge

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RE: Jack Fowler Service Oct 1940 - June 1946

#68 by chocks , Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:00 am

I'm not too sure why 2 badges were issued to HMS King Geaorge V

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RE: Jack Fowler Service Oct 1940 - June 1946

#69 by Frothy , Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:37 am

Excuse my ignorance but how do you know he is a stoker?


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RE: Jack Fowler Service Oct 1940 - June 1946

#70 by chocks , Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:40 am

Cos I'm a smart arse

Plus the fact that he's got a Stokers Badge on his arm and it has no star above it makes him a 3rd Class or trainee.


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RE: Jack Fowler Service Oct 1940 - June 1946

#71 by davidfowler , Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:54 pm

Also because he was my Dad and I know!

 
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RE: Jack Fowler Service Oct 1940 - June 1946

#72 by Frothy , Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:32 pm

I only asked


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RE: Jack Fowler Service Oct 1940 - June 1946

#73 by Frothy , Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:31 am

Two Birmingham ships on ebay
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War Graves

#74 by Frothy , Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:46 pm

War Graves in St. Barnabus Church yard Erdington
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RE: War Graves

#75 by Frothy , Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:50 pm

Found a youtube for HMS Vultare. Interesting

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